The Civil War happened. Honorable men and women on both sides died. We need to learn from these mistakes and never make black or white lives any different.
Mayor Andy is determined to shoot his foot off before he can run for higher office.
Well, here we go again. “Not my mayor” Andy Berke has become an archaeologist and has started digging up bones. Who cares if the city was named as a trustee of the Confederate Cemetery many years ago? Many responses to this “outrage” have already been posted. I expect that many more will be forthcoming. Let me note, not all Democrats agree with “not my mayor” Andy Berke. There are a few of us left that have the common sense that God gave to a goose. Regardless of political parties, racism exists. It’s not pretty. I do not support it. However, it’s not going away.
I offer my congratulations to “not my mayor” Berke that he has time to involve himself in such outlandish projects.
As many of the responses mentioned, I am proud of my Southern heritage. I had ancestors, who like many, served on both the Union and Confederate sides during the Civil War. What if all the Southerners asked that the Northerners be disinterred from the Chattanooga National Cemetery? What if the Jews asked that the Nazis be disinterred, as well? What if all the people who were opposed to both the Korean and Vietnam Conflicts/Wars requested the same? Will “not my mayor” Berke stand with them, or even grab a shovel and start digging?
I was amazed at how well a grasp “not my mayor” Berke has on history. It must have been his collegiate major. No, Andy, slavery was not the only reason for the Civil War. As Andy so very proudly announced, "Confederates fought against America to preserve slavery. That is the truth, and we should no longer subsidize any myths to the contrary.”
I did some light research and found the following to be causes of that war. Andy, you may want to get a pen and pencil and write these down for future reference. The information was taken from the website
thoughtco.com:
1.) ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH
2.) STATES VERSUS FEDERAL RIGHTS
3.) THE FIGHT BETWEEN SLAVE AND NON-SLAVE STATE PROPONENTS
4.) GROWTH OF THE ABOLITION MOVEMENT
I borrow two quotes from earlier responses because I think they need to be repeated over and over until Andy gets it through his thickened skull. As Mr. Dankowski stated, "I am not a lawyer because I can read and write and wanted to do better in life, but I think the good Mayor and City Attorney need to look up Public Law 85-425, dated May 28, 1958 passed by Congress and treat these Confederate Soldiers as Veterans.” As well, Mr. Parker was so kind to remind us, "By the way, the Mayor of the city of Chattanooga has no authority to order the city attorney to file a lawsuit. Only the City Council has that authority. I'm sure that's one of those legal technicalities that will be conveniently ignored.” Considering that Andy has several of the City Council members “bought and paid for”, I would guess this to be correct.
We have had some real doozies for Mayors in the past years, but “not my mayor” Andy Berke…you take the cake.
Rusty Munger
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Mayor, you will not miss this fleeting opportunity to grab the national spotlight will you? I hope you get serious coverage and can join the ranks of the other liberal Mayors in this nation who are abandoning practical stewardship for whatever media attention they can gather.
Thanks for your "look at me", selfish virtue-signaling. I'm truly inspired...
As if anyone thought this city was racist - or even gave it a second thought - until you did this as if it was an established fact.
1 - I hope you have thought through all the ramifications of letting a piece of land go that's adjacent to UTC in the city center, out of city control.
2 - I hope you have thought about the negative ramifications this will have on the multi-million-dollar Civil War tourism business Chattanooga is in - the jobs that could be lost and the businesses that will lose revenue.
3 - And if knuckle-heads come to our city to bring violence, I hope you will personally ditch your tailored suit, don your body armor, and get out there to protect people.
All this so you could be seen as enlightened. You are not a leader - you are a self-aggrandizing showman positioning yourself for the next government teat to latch on to after you drain this one dry.
FACT: In my neighborhood roads are torn to pieces and people shoot each other in the grocery store parking lots.
FACT: My business is not even safe to go in and out of after dark and private security guards are paid to patrol your streets and protect private property.
FACT: We are surrounded by public schools we can't even send our daughter to.
Right here in the city you "lead"...
And this is - opening the wounds of 150+ year old grievances - is where you are spending time and energy?
With this type of enlightened, liberal leadership we will head down the road of every other democrat-lead city in the U.S.... awash in violence, poverty, and corruption. But be assured, we'll put a good face on it.
Great work bud. You are a moral inspiration to us all.
Brandon Lewis
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“I am not the kind of man who would spit on another man’s grave.”
This is the standard of a gentleman when speaking of someone they detested, but now dead. Mayor Berke has demonstrated that he is the kind of man who would spit on another man’s grave and, unfortunately, through his position as mayor has implicated the people of Chattanooga.
“Show me the manner in which a nation cares for its dead and I will measure with mathematical exactness the tender mercies of its people, their respect for the laws of the land and their loyalty to high ideals.”
– Sir William Gladstone
Jeff K. Brown
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Most of us do not hate our neighbors. Most of us are not obsessed with our differences. Most of us don't spend our time looking for something to be outraged about. So logically most of us are going to wonder why the Mayor of our beautiful city issued a statement about a cemetery.
Why wasn't he issuing a statement about how he is making sure our kids in poor neighborhoods get a good education and don't get shot on the way home from school? Why is he grandstanding now, knowing this could lead to hateful outsiders coming to our city to cause trouble?
It is clear that the Mayor has great political aspirations. His statement was a check list of talking points, right down to that obligatory jab at President Trump. If Chattanooga turned into a Charlottesville situation, I suppose he might get his face on the national news. But maybe he has over played his race baiting hand. Maybe he is going to find out that, while the citizens in Chattanooga may disagree about many things, they do not want to be blatantly used as pawns for political gain.
I appreciate the people that researched and shed light on inconsistencies regarding the city's relationship with the cemetery. I find it comforting to see the good individuals here speaking out and not putting politics before our city and its people. It's a shame that the man we elected to look out for Chattanooga isn't decent enough to do the same.
Sherece Manchester
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Mayor Berke said: "One thing is certain -- racism, hatred and violence don't belong in any American city, and that includes Chattanooga. Our city opposes white supremacy in any form and under any name, and we expect the same from our leaders."
The first inhabitants of Chattanooga were Native Americans. (Wikipedia) "In 1838 the U.S. government forced the Cherokees, along with other Native Americans from southeastern U.S. states, to relocate to the area designated as Indian Territory, in what is now the state of Oklahoma. Their journey west became known as the "Trail of Tears" for their exile and fatalities along the way. The US Army used Ross's Landing as the site of one of three large internment camps, or "emigration depots", where Native Americans were held prior to the journey on the Trail of Tears.
Seems to me if Mr. Berke wants to practice what he preaches, he should charter some buses to Oklahoma and attempt to find the ancestors who rightfully hold the deed to this entire city.
I'm sure they would find a job for him in their administration.
Robert Shackleford
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I am a pro-equality, pro-LGBTQ, pro-First Amendment citizen. I believe racial division is the most sad, unproductive wound this nation has carried forth into this generation.
Today, my wish is to confront Mayor Andy Berke's seemingly patronizing gesture toward a piece of land the city admittedly does not own – the Confederate Cemetery on East Third Street. I believe this stunt on behalf of Mayor Berke is a glaring personal aggrandizement, exemplifying the very characteristics of why the aforementioned divisions fester and cannot heal.
Mayor Berke has taken action against our real foe, Sarah Ruth Frazier. Sarah was born 10 years after the Civil War ended and died in 1956. She is buried in the Confederate Cemetery. I'm glad Mayor Berke is saving us from Sarah and her many peers, because she obviously deserves to be vilified for neither living during nor participating in the Civil War. On the cusp of a truly bitter, deadly and heart-breaking event in Charlottesville, Mayor Berke seems to believe inviting attention to some Confederate soldiers and their families' genealogy is our answer to combating hate in the context of entrenched separatism. As for the soldiers themselves, many miss the fact the vast majority of them were not from slave-owning households.
Our federal government was assembled from among various colonies whose citizens were fiercely patriotic – to those colonies. As the federal government took shape with its original, limited powers, American citizens around the time the Constitution ratified passed their state level loyalties to their children.
"Our action today makes it clear that the City of Chattanooga condemns white supremacy in every way, shape and form. While we honor our dead, we do not honor the principle for which they fought. Our city should be invested in our future, not a discredited past. Confederates fought against America to preserve slavery. That is the truth, and we should no longer subsidize any myths to the contrary." ~ Andrew Lawrence Berke.
That is a strong paragraph, if it were something Berke truly wished to apply “in every way, shape or form.” In a moment I will offer Governor-In-Waiting Berke the opportunity to walk that talk, but first a bit of history on how deeply slave-era dignitaries permeated our national nomenclature: New York City and State were named after the Duke of York, lead shareholder of Company of Royal Adventurers Trading in Africa (Royal African Company). This company facilitated the slave trade and supplied the colonies with African native citizens in trade for goods. Is there a large gathering to remove York's name, considering he is far more involved in the machinery of slavery than even Robert E. Lee? Europe was a primary economic driver of the slave trade which kept goods from the Confederacy flowing across the Atlantic. It is very likely New York will not be changing names soon.
I am unimpressed Mayor Berke is choosing this cause, the blood of local families' history, to state his case against a fringe blight on society. So today, let us offer Mayor Berke an opportunity to take a real stand using his exact words. Perhaps the party most responsible for perpetuating and funding the Civil War, with a human cost estimate varying between 650,000 and 850,000 lives, is the banker who sided with the South and literally bet on its success at a great profit to him, his family and his enterprise. Much more than any Confederate soldier or the small collection of them in a nondescript Chattanooga cemetery, this man has perhaps the largest gallon count of Union and Confederate blood directly on his hands. The heartbreak of southern slavery was a substantial economic proposition which required logistics across multiple continents to coordinate. This man was wholly in support of European trade with African partners to provide supply of imprisoned servitude to the Confederacy. This labor guaranteed inexpensive southern cotton for European mills. The man's name was Frederic Emile, Baron d' Erlanger. Yes, “that” Erlanger.
The only way the South, with unrecognized Confederate currency, could trade with Europe was with loans using future bales of cotton as collateral. These loans became the “Erlanger Cotton Bonds.” Erlanger loaned the South money which essentially pawned cotton production, then sold his bonds against that cotton at a substantial profit. The Confederacy needed European raw supplies and finished goods to support the Civil War effort, and without those goods the South would have lost much earlier. By perpetuating the war and rolling in cotton gross margins, Erlanger cost tens of thousands of additional lives. Without Erlanger, European merchants would have had no mechanism to encourage violating U.S. Federal blockades of southern ports to get the cotton, and millions in war funding for the Confederate cause would not have existed. That was the deal. Erlanger sold promissory notes good for a certain value of cotton, and the European mill merchants had to go get it by circumnavigating or breaking the blockades.
While Andy Berke lodges his argument against the few quiet dead, the name of the real culprit who pulled the Civil War's largest fiscal strings is emblazoned on the largest local institution which keeps us alive. Erlanger money bought the ships and kept the supply lines from Europe afloat. If Mayor Berke truly intends to fend off subsidizing the “discredited past”, then he is one of only two municipal mayors in America capable of erasing the ten-of-ten power wizard behind the Confederate curtain. The other, in Kentucky, likely has other things to do. If we're talking real impact, it's not a few Confederate soldiers and their family members on a small plot of land the city doesn't own. It most certainly is the most recognizable name the city and county do own.
Would he actually direct City Attorney Wade Hinton to call the Hospital Authority into session to send the Baroness into permanent retirement? Of course not. And he shouldn't. Nor should he score sad, cheap political points by drawing attention and potential vandalism to a sleepy cemetery whose long term tenants still deserve peace. I believe in preserving history for its lessons, not selectively re-writing it to make pretentious overtures compliments of dead veterans. People are dying on American streets in horrendous clashes of ideology, and this is the best statement we can make? Distancing ourselves from William Jolly, an infant who lived for three months in 1882?
Andy Berke's walking opportunism show went off the rails this time, the same rails the Erlangers came to inspect when they donated seed money to build our hospital in the 1880's. I love Erlanger Hospital, its work, its people and its history. I would tie myself to a tree on Third Street if someone wanted to change its name. Yet, the $5,000 donated by the Baron pales against the $8,500,000 he raised to establish the bloodiest bond issue ever conceived by mankind. But down on East Third lies the truth about Mayor Berke's actual convictions, as I'm betting he would never challenge a famous name for political gain when convenient corpses don't talk back. I watched my two youngest children born at Erlanger Hospital. I have said for years Children's Hospital at Erlanger needs to be the primary recipient of local giving, as it provides the vast majority of pediatric care.
The challenge is on the table, Mayor Berke. If you want to extinguish our link with the Confederacy, your own words demand you censure the man who earned the most from it. We are a product of our past. We cannot deny it. My heart today determines the lessons I vest in my children. Your ghoulish opportunism is unimpressive, Mayor Berke, and it is not helping our raw societal wounds heal.
Jason M. Kibby
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The mayor of Chattanooga recently announced his intention to take action to remove the city from any connection with the Confederate Cemetery on East Third Street. I have to ask the following questions in response:
1. Do dead people - who died over 150 years ago - really present a threat to the citizens of Chattanooga to the point of taking such action?
2. Are there not better issues with which the mayor can devote time and attention? The reality is that this city has terrible problems with violence and killing, with homeless people and with an educational system that needs all the help it can get.
3. Seriously, is using a cemetery for political gain - and attempting to re-write history - an honorable way to get votes?
Tim McDonald
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I suspect this venerable statement could be usefully injected into the mayor's current idiocy involving the Confederate Cemetery:
"If we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future."
Winston Churchill, House of Commons speech, June 18, 1940
Amen. With any luck it's Andy Berke's future that gets lost here. Governor? Good grief.
Larry Cloud
Lookout Valley